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national correspondent jerramy e centanni is live with the latest on the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: there is no deal yet. no negotiations, face to face, but one republican is giving ground this morning on a major stumbling block. and that's the tax rates for the wealthy. and a key democrat expressing optimism. here's the two side, moving a bit closer together on "fox news sunday." let's listen. >> i think we will get an agreement. the reason i think we will get an agreement. what's standing in the way is revenues, particularly making that top rate go up to 39-6. but i think we are seeing real progress. i think you will see our republican colleague, reluctantly say let's go up to 39-6. >> a lot of people are saying, give the president the 2% increase he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. so there is a growing body. i am beginning to believe that's the best route for us to take. >> reporter: saying, go ahead give the president the tax increase on the highest 2% of wage earners. but house speaker and john boehner have not sat down for negotiations. even though corker is saying
national correspondent jerramy e centanni is live with the latest on the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: there is no deal yet. no negotiations, face to face, but one republican is giving ground this morning on a major stumbling block. and that's the tax rates for the wealthy. and a key democrat expressing optimism. here's the two side, moving a bit closer together on "fox news sunday." let's listen. >> i think we will get an agreement. the reason i think we will get an...
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thank you very much. >>> much of the conversation in washington regarding the fiscal cliff is focused on tax rates or how the federal government can bring in more revenue from you. what about the other side of the equation? cutting back on spending and borrowing. steve moore joins us to talk about that and separate fact from fiction when it comes to the numbers. >> thank you for asking that question about the spending side of the ledger. the laos two or three weeks the discussion has been about raising taxes and no discussion about reducing the amount -- the outgo. >> let's start there. if we stopped overspending, what would it take for the government to get lined up, to get rid of the debt and deficit. >> we've dug ourselves into a deep hole. when i came to washington we talked about the budget, deficit in the billions, now in the trillions of dollars. part of the problem is the numbers are large but it's a million, million dollars. the debt is $6 trillion and we're borrowing $1.1 trillion a year. the problem the president faces, even if he gets his tax increase on the rich in negoti
thank you very much. >>> much of the conversation in washington regarding the fiscal cliff is focused on tax rates or how the federal government can bring in more revenue from you. what about the other side of the equation? cutting back on spending and borrowing. steve moore joins us to talk about that and separate fact from fiction when it comes to the numbers. >> thank you for asking that question about the spending side of the ledger. the laos two or three weeks the discussion...
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republicans will demand there whether it's part of the deal in the fiscal cliff or to raise the debt limit. >> i'm glad you brought that up. in terms of spending, which clearly has to be cut, the president from the reports this week wants to raise the debt ceiling without asking anybody. did they comment on that? >> what he's saying is give me the unilateral right to raise the debt ceiling, which congress had has had to approve, then congress can disapprove with a two-thirds vote. that would mean i could increase it when he wants. it's very unlikely that -- almost impossible, republicans in congress would go along seeding there kind of authority with the president. they might agree to increase the debt limit for enough money to take him through the end of the term. but they're not just going to give him or future presidents the authority to increase the debt limit. that's part of the power congress has. >> we hope to see them working hard at this, time getting close to the end of the year. >> 23 days and counting. >> keep the stopwatch going. happy sunday. >> you bet, thank you. >> d
republicans will demand there whether it's part of the deal in the fiscal cliff or to raise the debt limit. >> i'm glad you brought that up. in terms of spending, which clearly has to be cut, the president from the reports this week wants to raise the debt ceiling without asking anybody. did they comment on that? >> what he's saying is give me the unilateral right to raise the debt ceiling, which congress had has had to approve, then congress can disapprove with a two-thirds vote....
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if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken and this is with your paycheck and the american dream. meanwhile, the republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad. they're negotiating publicly among themselves while true conservatives and tea party members are being removed from key committees. today speaker john boehner adopted the president's class wawarfare rhetoric. shocking? watch this. >> we've got to cut spending, and i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. now, the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who, the ric
if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the...
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the financial advisor gives his take on the looming fiscal cliff. >> the president will want it and get it and win the battle on the higher tax rates on upper income people. >> art lafferks r said the gop still has more cards to play in their hand. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. welcome back everybody. help is on the way for hurricane sandy victims in washington. getting that money approved will not be easy. >>let white house sent letters to john boehner and harry reid requesting 60.4 billion saying after hurricane sandy they're funds necessary to finance. and there is impants . in dc money is quiet . speaker boehner said we have the request and we will view it they need to make sure they don't spend too much money they don't should saying it is our responsible to make sure they are giting the most . that i can sure they are times and targeted. governors of new york and jers. asked for it 79.billion and this is well short of governors and senators are thankful for the
the financial advisor gives his take on the looming fiscal cliff. >> the president will want it and get it and win the battle on the higher tax rates on upper income people. >> art lafferks r said the gop still has more cards to play in their hand. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. welcome back everybody. help is on the way for hurricane sandy victims in washington....
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he said he would rather go over the fiscal cliff than not to raise tax rates. so obama pushing higher taxes on the top 2%, not for economic reasons but for i'd logical reasons but there is also this obvious fact. obama wants to raise the top rates for political reasons. now that is he wants to force republicans to raise tacks in order to trigger a civil war within the gop and the conservative movement, and in that respect sadly obama is having some success. now so long as this debate is focused not on cutting spending but on raising daxs and revenues with the only question being which taxes, how much revenue, then obama wins. now if obama succeeds in making the argument not about his spending, but about grover norquist, he wins there, too. for republicans, on the other hand, if they can figure out a way to refocus the debate on spending, they win and the country wins. we can't kid ourselves that's correct is not easy to do. obama has the biggest microphone in the land and he also has the media in his hip pocket. all the gop has is control of the house. now it's
he said he would rather go over the fiscal cliff than not to raise tax rates. so obama pushing higher taxes on the top 2%, not for economic reasons but for i'd logical reasons but there is also this obvious fact. obama wants to raise the top rates for political reasons. now that is he wants to force republicans to raise tacks in order to trigger a civil war within the gop and the conservative movement, and in that respect sadly obama is having some success. now so long as this debate is focused...
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>> people are doing interesting things when it comes to the fiscal cliff and taxes. overall h & r block there's one in every five miles of every american. they are every where. this is not just for the month of december. this is going to be going through into january and february. this is their busy time. they hire about 100,000 year-round. the peak season is october to january. tax professionals client service customer care positions, customer care, tech support. one in every tax return in this country that is filed h & r block does it. the fiscal cliff is changing especially with the real estate market i will talk about that next week. they are busy right now. we want to know how to file our taxes. >>> they are lacking toer more than masking. >> exactly. >> everything is listed at my block casone exchange.com. you can apply. we are going to be getting follow up with the fed and crazy decision that took many of us by surprise. >> it is 25 minutes after the hour. he sacrificed his life to save the lives of fellow soldiers in iraq. why is the military refusing to give
>> people are doing interesting things when it comes to the fiscal cliff and taxes. overall h & r block there's one in every five miles of every american. they are every where. this is not just for the month of december. this is going to be going through into january and february. this is their busy time. they hire about 100,000 year-round. the peak season is october to january. tax professionals client service customer care positions, customer care, tech support. one in every tax...
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and bring on the fiscal cliff. he says who cares if we spiral into another recession. if unemployment goes back up to 9%, that's not the president's problem because in his mind if that happens, he'll have yet another golden opportunity to wash his hands of all of his failures and then arrogantly blame the republican party. to make matters worse, we're learning today that president obama is a far cry away from waging this battle by his lonesome. as usual, his friends in the main stream media have been willing to continue to do whatever he wants and that means to say whatever it takes to try and fool you, the american people, into thinking that raising taxes is your only option. the extent to which so-called journalists have been spreading his propaganda is now in a brand new study. according to this report, the chief offender of that left wing bias is none other than abc news. yes, it turns out that in the three weeks following the election the net woul network cd obama's favorite issue which is raising taxes 17 tim
and bring on the fiscal cliff. he says who cares if we spiral into another recession. if unemployment goes back up to 9%, that's not the president's problem because in his mind if that happens, he'll have yet another golden opportunity to wash his hands of all of his failures and then arrogantly blame the republican party. to make matters worse, we're learning today that president obama is a far cry away from waging this battle by his lonesome. as usual, his friends in the main stream media...
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the last time we had a deal it created this fiscal cliff. my hope is that we have a solution. here is the bottom line on all of this. if they do all the things the president is asking for. we are all going to be worse off. the truth is it's not just about a pledgor protecting millionaires and billionaires. you raise those taxes and the true millionaires and billionaires are going to figure the stuff out. the people who are going to get crushed are the install and mid sized businesses who pay on their personal rate. they are going to get hurt by. this lay people off. cut hours. that's going to hurt the middle class. that's going to hurt the working class. it's not going to do anything for the debt. >> intran jent he basically said we are going to raise the rate. if you don't like it we're not going to get a deal. seems like that's where we are going here. >> that's unfortunate. instead of what the president is doing is saying the campaign is over let me governor. put a campaign and put a trophy in the liberal trophy case. what the president is proposing is not going to do anyth
the last time we had a deal it created this fiscal cliff. my hope is that we have a solution. here is the bottom line on all of this. if they do all the things the president is asking for. we are all going to be worse off. the truth is it's not just about a pledgor protecting millionaires and billionaires. you raise those taxes and the true millionaires and billionaires are going to figure the stuff out. the people who are going to get crushed are the install and mid sized businesses who pay on...
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it's over and the fiscal cliff is either -- the taxes are going to go up on these rich people one way are 00 other. >> bill: they are going to go up on everybody. as howard dean said at the top of the program. the rich people are going to pay much more which is a good reason not to buy gutfeld's book because if you do he is going to have to pay more in taxes next year because that's when the royalties will come into him. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes because we're in such dire trouble. now, gutfeld, do you believe the average guy -- and i'm not being arrogant here. do they know what's at stake or care about this? >> it could be simple find if you just told them that it is not about revenue. it's about spending. when you look at a really fat guy, is he fat not because he ran out of food. he he is fat because he ate too much. that's all you have to say to them. by the way, i'm worried about president obama. he is upset over a tiny, tiny fraction of the population. he is obsessed with the 2%. if the richie jody foster he would be john hinckley. he he has got to back off. i
it's over and the fiscal cliff is either -- the taxes are going to go up on these rich people one way are 00 other. >> bill: they are going to go up on everybody. as howard dean said at the top of the program. the rich people are going to pay much more which is a good reason not to buy gutfeld's book because if you do he is going to have to pay more in taxes next year because that's when the royalties will come into him. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes because we're in such...
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because as we all know if we go over the fiscal cliff. that means higher taxes for everybody. it means a hit of $3.9% to the gp it means unemployment will probably go over 9%, maybe as high as 10%. think those are all the kinds of things that the president would want to avoid. we don't want that to be the discussion beginning 2013. i think the president wants to make sure first we get past the fiscal challenge and bring both parties together and sign an agreement that works for us so we avoid the fiscal cliff and then look for other ways to bring the country together and maybe make a difference legislatively. >> chris as promised really quickly here. your former cross, senator joe mansion, west virginia, absolutely despises the mtv show, buck wild and has taken to talking about it. a lot, what's your take on all of this? what's happening here? >> well, you know, listen, there's nobody who loves his state more, i think than joe mansion. he loves west virginia. it's a state with great people. i've met a lot of them while i worked for him and you see this show, i went and saw the
because as we all know if we go over the fiscal cliff. that means higher taxes for everybody. it means a hit of $3.9% to the gp it means unemployment will probably go over 9%, maybe as high as 10%. think those are all the kinds of things that the president would want to avoid. we don't want that to be the discussion beginning 2013. i think the president wants to make sure first we get past the fiscal challenge and bring both parties together and sign an agreement that works for us so we avoid...
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fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't going to come to the table with anything reasonable. i'll be the one to say it, i know it will be disastrous and doom our economy for years to come, let's go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. just leave the negotiating tables and send us over the cliff. you know why? at least for a few seconds, it will feel like we're flying. >> all right. that's going to wrap things up for me today. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 eastern. joining me republican congresswoman diane black, atlanta mayor reid and on the power panel "time" magazine's karen tum multi. karen finney and republican strategist robert trainham. "now" with alex wagner is coming up. >> we have a spicy enchilada today. lawmakers are channeling their inner publicists in the fiscal cliff negotiations. that pr aside, are we any closer to common ground? and it if all this sounds familiar, it is. we will talk deal making and deja vu with ben jaman wallace walls, and the
fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't going to come to the table with anything reasonable. i'll be the one to say it, i know it will be disastrous and doom our economy for years to come, let's go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. just leave the negotiating tables and send us over the cliff. you know why? at least for a few seconds, it will feel like we're flying. >> all right. that's going to wrap things up for me today. thanks for your...
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one of the things about this fiscal cliff debate that bothers me, even if we raise taxes on the top two or three% and the president may reveil. then you go into 2013 and i heard the discussion on the debt which was fantastic. even if we do the tax increases on the rich they're not going to raise that much money and not that many people that make over 400 $500,000 a year and that means if the liberals want a fund these new programs and they want to bring this trillion dollar debt down. you know where they have to go, eric, who are they going to have to tax. they're f are not going to be w on the very rich, 1 or 2%, they're going to go after the middle class, at least howard dean was being honest. >> clayton: people watch fox and other networks with a different perspective on taxes and what not. >> eric: the reality is, we have a spending problem, steve. how much money we're actually taxing, tax revenues are going up. >> they have to. >> eric: it's a spending issue. if we're putting a trillion dollars into the deficit you can't fix that with taxes. >> no, you sure can't. eric, when i firs
one of the things about this fiscal cliff debate that bothers me, even if we raise taxes on the top two or three% and the president may reveil. then you go into 2013 and i heard the discussion on the debt which was fantastic. even if we do the tax increases on the rich they're not going to raise that much money and not that many people that make over 400 $500,000 a year and that means if the liberals want a fund these new programs and they want to bring this trillion dollar debt down. you know...
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cliff negotiations, immigration reform has become like taxes and spending. do you do it step-by-step, which is what the republicans like, because they'd like to show they are tough on security and there isn't a legal path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, or do you do the whole thing all together? if i were carl rove, which isn't something i imagine myself being often, i would knock on the door of olympia snowe and say what are your lessons for us? >> fun conversation. >> that would actually be a fun conversation. we hope that carl rove, if you're listening, takes that advice. >>> coming to the recent data, planned parenthood provides less than 5% of resources to abortion services, but that's not stopping republicans in their quest to defund the organization entirely. we'll head to the lone star state and take a look at the eye of the storm just ahead. >>> lauren wanted to introduce cabbage to mainstream america. she created mother-in law's kimchi. for more, watch 7:30 on msnbc. we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of tim and laura. it's am
cliff negotiations, immigration reform has become like taxes and spending. do you do it step-by-step, which is what the republicans like, because they'd like to show they are tough on security and there isn't a legal path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, or do you do the whole thing all together? if i were carl rove, which isn't something i imagine myself being often, i would knock on the door of olympia snowe and say what are your lessons for us? >> fun conversation. >> that...
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cliff. and the two most important players involving the financial future of our nation. i'm harris falkner, we're told a meeting was held behind closed door and without the media's knowledge and both men tight-lipped about what was said and when we asked for comments, both giving us the same statement, quote, this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff, we're not reading out details of the communication, but the lines of communication remain open, end quote. this meeting comes as the white house and congress appear to be at at impasse, you know by now is crippling spending and tax hikes and could cost us jobs and send us back into recession and to solve the problem, republicans say we must prevent our ballooning national debt from crushing generations. and chief white house correspondent now ed henry joins us by phone with the latest on this breaking story, ed, they kept this under wraps. how big after deal is this? >
cliff. and the two most important players involving the financial future of our nation. i'm harris falkner, we're told a meeting was held behind closed door and without the media's knowledge and both men tight-lipped about what was said and when we asked for comments, both giving us the same statement, quote, this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff, we're not reading out details of the communication, but the lines of...
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deal but it doesn't save us from the fiscal cliff. as susan was suggesting, there's a long time to go between now and the 31st. they have to wait until that long because neither side wants to appear to be giving in too early. that means they've given away more than they had to. you've got the president out there stirring the pot, trying to bring public opinion more to his side. the republicans are struggling to find some message to keep up with it. the danger is this whole thing boils over in animosity before the 31st and they go off the cliff because they have antagonized each other so much. >> and speaking of antagonistic situations, there's been a lot made of the dysfunction within the republican party but there's an article on the front page of the "new york times" that suggests that speaker boehner is actually in a stronger position in his caucus than when he was elected two years ago. how is he doing, do you think? >> well, i think he's in a stronger position because republicans feel like they're in a weaker position. i think a
deal but it doesn't save us from the fiscal cliff. as susan was suggesting, there's a long time to go between now and the 31st. they have to wait until that long because neither side wants to appear to be giving in too early. that means they've given away more than they had to. you've got the president out there stirring the pot, trying to bring public opinion more to his side. the republicans are struggling to find some message to keep up with it. the danger is this whole thing boils over in...
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with no agreement, going over the fiscal cliff would be painful. the automatic tax increases break down like this: households making $20,000 to $4,000 would see an increase in $1,200 a year. incomes $40,000 to $64,000 would see taxes rise $2,000 and in the $64,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the house talked this over today and here's major garrett at the white house. major? >> reporter: scott, ther there a code of silence the white house and speaker boehner's try to apply to these phone conversations, releasing as few details as possible to protect the underlying negotiations. nevertheless, cbs news has learned the following: the speaker and the president spoke before treasury secretary tkpwaoeugter in'ers.e.c.geithneg over the cliff, the conversation was described as brief, meaning shorter than the 28-minute conversation speaker boehner and the president had last week. also those familiar with the conversation tell me -- or do not used a skwrebgive thes like "curt," "frank" and "direct" m
with no agreement, going over the fiscal cliff would be painful. the automatic tax increases break down like this: households making $20,000 to $4,000 would see an increase in $1,200 a year. incomes $40,000 to $64,000 would see taxes rise $2,000 and in the $64,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the house talked this over today and here's major garrett at the white house. major? >> reporter: scott, ther there a code of silence the...
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the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> orrin hatch called that one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements he's heard in some time. what does your gut tell you? do you support the obama administration's decision to go over the cliff? that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with us. i'm tamron hall. we'll see you tomorrow. "the cycle" is up next. o think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i
the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> orrin hatch called that one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements he's heard in some time. what does your gut tell you? do you support the obama administration's decision to go over the cliff? that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with us. i'm tamron...
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sloping cliff thing and apparently 3% said neither. i'm not really sure that's an option. it does kind of make sense. it looked like we were on the cusp of a compromise and we have this. >> i remained the most optimistic person in the town, but we have serious differences. the president and i have frank conversation about how far apart we are. >> one step forward and two steps back. the latest dueling counteroffers, the white house lowered tax revenue target from 1.6 trillion down to 1.4 trillion and increased cuts by $200 billion to which the gop responded by having the plan we thought looked similar to the original offer. that was helpful. let's go on where we are with the fiscal cliff. i am becoming increasingly pessimistic that we are going have a deal done by january 1st. i don't think that's the end of the world, but basically democrats and republicans are living in two realities right now. democrats feel like we won an election and we are holding ought will cards. we don't have to compromise and want to compromise. republicans a
sloping cliff thing and apparently 3% said neither. i'm not really sure that's an option. it does kind of make sense. it looked like we were on the cusp of a compromise and we have this. >> i remained the most optimistic person in the town, but we have serious differences. the president and i have frank conversation about how far apart we are. >> one step forward and two steps back. the latest dueling counteroffers, the white house lowered tax revenue target from 1.6 trillion down...
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another republican apparently willing to agree with tax hikes to get a deal on the fiscal cliff. that is the case now. what do republicans get in return? senator lindsey graham is live on that. martha: looks like a beautiful morning everywhere, doesn't it. new reaction as details are now emerging in yet another nfl football tragedy. this time a crash that killed a dallas cowboy player and left another player charged with manslaughter this morning. >> i think everyone in our organization who knew him is completely numb and has been numb the last couple days. football is a game of emotion. a lot of different emotions circulating. somehow how some way, we have to process it all and understand that life is different than football and we had a job to do today gressiv, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. music: "make someone happy" music:
another republican apparently willing to agree with tax hikes to get a deal on the fiscal cliff. that is the case now. what do republicans get in return? senator lindsey graham is live on that. martha: looks like a beautiful morning everywhere, doesn't it. new reaction as details are now emerging in yet another nfl football tragedy. this time a crash that killed a dallas cowboy player and left another player charged with manslaughter this morning. >> i think everyone in our organization...
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using the public to pressure republicans in to extending tax cuts for the middle class to avert the fiscal cliff. these are some live pictures of a diamler plant outside of detroit where the president will be speaking in a couple of minutes. the president greeted by the state's republican governor about an hour ago. one day before a controversial right to work bill the white house is opposed to is signed in to law. we'll have more on that later in the show but as far as the fiscal cliff, our first read team says we are already at the end game if the goal is to get a deal passed by december 21st. now that means the president and house speaker boehner have five days max to reach an agreement. that takes us to the 15th. then the legislation has to be written by the 18th. the president is now working two strategies to get a deal done. he met with speaker boehner yesterday. that's the first face to face in nearly a month and their one on one first one since july 2011. now, the other strategy as michigan congressman clark explains is going to the people. >> i think the best way to break this pol
using the public to pressure republicans in to extending tax cuts for the middle class to avert the fiscal cliff. these are some live pictures of a diamler plant outside of detroit where the president will be speaking in a couple of minutes. the president greeted by the state's republican governor about an hour ago. one day before a controversial right to work bill the white house is opposed to is signed in to law. we'll have more on that later in the show but as far as the fiscal cliff, our...
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why give in on taxes and the fiscal cliff fight when you will have all the leverage. megyn: simon? >> in the rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they pull what mark is saying, you are going to see the republican party's numbers in the 20s. they have no leverage on this thing. >> not going to happen. megyn: we'll leave it at that. thank you both. just ahead. a much more somber note. new warning about the sarin gas threat in syria. city drivers claim a class action that the traffic cameras are actually rigged. soot whole world is watching and the president of the united states made clear there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. megyn: that was leon panetta with a warning that the united states and our allies will not tolerate a chemical attack by syria. we got reports that they were mixing the chemical weapons earlier this week. focusing new attention on saddam huss
why give in on taxes and the fiscal cliff fight when you will have all the leverage. megyn: simon? >> in the rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they pull what mark is saying, you are going to see the republican party's numbers in the 20s. they have no leverage on this thing. >> not going to happen. megyn: we'll leave it at that. thank you both....
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of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody says anything. this could be seen as something more good than bad. >> reporter: exactly. because they didn't come out of the meeting beating each other up and saying i'm never going to sign a deal with the other guy. the fact that they're keeping this quiet, hush hush for now in terms of the details of what they discussed suggests that they're hopeful of a deal, although i have to tell you. the president sounded pretty optimistic when he was in michigan about the possibility of us going off the cliff and falling into a second recession. here's what he had to sa
of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody...
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once we go over the fiscal cliff, their leverage is gone and i think they have come to turns with the cold reality but not accepted it yet. >> once or if we go over the cliff, the leverage may be gone for the republicans but not a position the president or the white house wants to be in either. >> it will hurt the economy if nothing else. it shows the american people that republicans and democrats at any level seemingly can't work together. >> michael, that's an interesting point. the american public for the most part i think tuning in and out of this. you have "the washington post" reporting that some investors are taking preemptive action to get ahead of things, moving and selling investments offload stocks, expanding charitable donations and expanding tax shelters if you have enough cash to do something like that, preparing for the end of the year. the nutshell, the people with the cash waiting or at least making a plan to do something with it if these shenanigans if i can call it that continue in washington. >> i think most individuals, however, don't know what they should be doin
once we go over the fiscal cliff, their leverage is gone and i think they have come to turns with the cold reality but not accepted it yet. >> once or if we go over the cliff, the leverage may be gone for the republicans but not a position the president or the white house wants to be in either. >> it will hurt the economy if nothing else. it shows the american people that republicans and democrats at any level seemingly can't work together. >> michael, that's an interesting...
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this all comes as we get word that the fiscal cliff talks will boil down to what happens between two people and only two people. president obama and john boehner. even all sides of the party are excluded. >>> with 25 days before taxes go up for nearly every single american, what effect will the jobs report have on the fiscal standoff? we'll get live remarks from john boehner who is going to try to use the jobs report to the republican's advantage. representative, let's start with the november jobs report numbers. they look very good, good news overall for the koirnlt tree. but speaker boehner said this, the democrats plan to slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithne
this all comes as we get word that the fiscal cliff talks will boil down to what happens between two people and only two people. president obama and john boehner. even all sides of the party are excluded. >>> with 25 days before taxes go up for nearly every single american, what effect will the jobs report have on the fiscal standoff? we'll get live remarks from john boehner who is going to try to use the jobs report to the republican's advantage. representative, let's start with the...
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we thought it worked with the electoral map and fiscal cliff, get them a room and try to it. welcome back. >> good to be back. >> bret: a different channelchallenge. we talked about taxes. let's start there. the compromise. how do you get the compromise. joe, start with you. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in revenue. there is no way, the top rate of 39%. there is i think there will be a rate increase. there is no way the democrats are going to go for less than a rate increase. 37% might be a good place where it seems to be possibility for compromise. the president has to give and go to thenate bill for 20% tax and gain and dividends. the next place and big one is how you deal with deductions then, reforming that. my idea is capping all of them at 28%. let the deductions stay the same. take deductions but you can't lower tax rate below 28%. no matter how many you take. decent idea. top tier. democrats might go for it. >> this isn't an attempt to get more revenue. if you raise top rates back to where they were under clinton you can get $462 billion. if you do what
we thought it worked with the electoral map and fiscal cliff, get them a room and try to it. welcome back. >> good to be back. >> bret: a different channelchallenge. we talked about taxes. let's start there. the compromise. how do you get the compromise. joe, start with you. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in revenue. there is no way, the top rate of 39%. there is i think there will be a rate increase. there is no way the democrats are going to go for less than a...
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. >>> so as the country teeters on the edge of this fiscal cliff, the republican party appears to have already gone over the image cliff. in our "deep dive" today, we're going to dig into our new poll to see what it says about the party brand going forward. using responses to our nbc/"wall street journal" poll, look at how people describe the gop, words like, bad, weak, negative, uncompromising, out of touch. 1 10 of the top 11 responses were negative. less than 20% were positive overall. let's look at the word cloud when asked about the democratic brand, if you will. the top description in the party is that it's, quote, for the people and the working class. another top answer was they're doing a good job. they didn't got off the hook, though. confused and misguided was the second most common description. in raw numbers, the democrats are at a plus 9 positive rating, the gop underwater, negative 15% to 30% approve, 45% disapprove, as can you see there, not good at this point in time. mika, let me start with your side of the aisle now. i dug into the cross tabs. the only two groups that
. >>> so as the country teeters on the edge of this fiscal cliff, the republican party appears to have already gone over the image cliff. in our "deep dive" today, we're going to dig into our new poll to see what it says about the party brand going forward. using responses to our nbc/"wall street journal" poll, look at how people describe the gop, words like, bad, weak, negative, uncompromising, out of touch. 1 10 of the top 11 responses were negative. less than 20%...
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how will going over the fiscal cliff affect small businesses? i believe that being able to have a fairer tax rate will benefit small businesses because small businesses will be able to make sure that they are paying a fairer tax rate as what happened in the clinton tax years when we had an economic boom. >> congresswoman, we hear all the time certainly from the republicans arguments against president obama's plan is the $250,000 tax hike threshold could hurt small businesses. we hear that from all people who come on to talk about why they are opposed to it from the right wing that small business owners are going to be the ones hurt by this, the job creators. when we talk about them filing taxes as individuals and the real ones out there, what is your response to that? >> well, look. the people who lost this election are holding out for the top 2% and the people who won this election are fighting for the 98%. that is a vast majority of americans including small businesses. i think that a fairer tax rate could only benefit them. >> this is interes
how will going over the fiscal cliff affect small businesses? i believe that being able to have a fairer tax rate will benefit small businesses because small businesses will be able to make sure that they are paying a fairer tax rate as what happened in the clinton tax years when we had an economic boom. >> congresswoman, we hear all the time certainly from the republicans arguments against president obama's plan is the $250,000 tax hike threshold could hurt small businesses. we hear that...
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could push it over the fiscal cliff. >> if he would do what he said before the election as oppose to do the bait and switch what republicans like is like jerry bro brownicing t cooking the footba. >> the talk of taxes is almost irrelevant to the size of the trillions and trillions of debt. >> unwilling to compromise the democrats new york center chuck schumer said republicans should go ahead and make his day. >> debt ceiling will be part of the griement. i think our repub can colleagues have learned that to save the government is not going to pay his debt for something else is bad substance and bad politics. i don't think they will prevail on it. if they don't say we won't raise the debt ceiling because of medicare make our day. >> some republicans will take the tax hike some will keep one of them. >> a lot of people are looking for the theory. it has merit where you give the president the two percent rate increase on the top 2 percent and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. all of a sudden once you get him the right on the top 2 percent it's actually much lesser tax
could push it over the fiscal cliff. >> if he would do what he said before the election as oppose to do the bait and switch what republicans like is like jerry bro brownicing t cooking the footba. >> the talk of taxes is almost irrelevant to the size of the trillions and trillions of debt. >> unwilling to compromise the democrats new york center chuck schumer said republicans should go ahead and make his day. >> debt ceiling will be part of the griement. i think our...
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today's fiscal cliff photo op of the day is going to be in suburban northern virginia when the president will remind the public yet again that without a budget deal taxes will go up on 100% of americans at the end of the year. he'll visit the home of a middle class family who shared their story through the white house's hash tag my 2k social media campaign. >>> with talks and a public stalemate on wednesday the president called speaker boehner their first conversation of the week. the two sides agreed on one thing. they wouldn't characterize the conversation. aides even refused to say how long the two leaders talked. this latest move, though, treasury secretary timothy geithner showed cnbc wednesday the white house is prepared to go over the cliff if democrats and republicans fail to get a deal done. >> when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000, if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the
today's fiscal cliff photo op of the day is going to be in suburban northern virginia when the president will remind the public yet again that without a budget deal taxes will go up on 100% of americans at the end of the year. he'll visit the home of a middle class family who shared their story through the white house's hash tag my 2k social media campaign. >>> with talks and a public stalemate on wednesday the president called speaker boehner their first conversation of the week. the...
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we don't mind paying more taxes. we're more concerned about the fiscal cliff. and so i think that again there are a lot of people that want to contribute. they know that there should be shared sacrifice. they realize that we cannot do this on the backs of our elderly, poor people and those in the middle class and those trying to get to the middle class on the backs of students. and i think they're saying, you know what? we can pay more because we want to do something that is good for our country. and hopefully that message will get through to the republicans and indeed the tea party folks. >> but if the ultimate goal here, sir, is to cut the national debt and sometimes people lose sight of that in the discussion here, the gop says the dems are just offering more spending and little in way of cutting. are democrats willing to give at all on entitlements? >> keep in mind, yes. and the president has made it clear. but we've got to look very carefully at the entitlements and realize that something like medicare, medicare right now you've got a situation where there
we don't mind paying more taxes. we're more concerned about the fiscal cliff. and so i think that again there are a lot of people that want to contribute. they know that there should be shared sacrifice. they realize that we cannot do this on the backs of our elderly, poor people and those in the middle class and those trying to get to the middle class on the backs of students. and i think they're saying, you know what? we can pay more because we want to do something that is good for our...
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in terms of the fiscal cliff, higher taxes on everybody. one thing that will happen without an agreement, all the bush tax rates go away, so everyone's taxes are going to go up. you'll see that emphasized over the next couple weeks. you'll hear the white house talk about what a bad situation there will be after january 1 if this deal is not cut. >> david jackson, "usa today," shira toeplitz, "roll call." we appreciate your time so much we'll talk to you later in the hour as well. >> thank you. >>> the last remaining house race of the 2012 election cycle is pabt to come to a close. in louisiana, republican congressman charles boustany jr., jeff landry facing off in a runoff election. they were forced to run in the same district in bayou because of the state's shrinking congressional delegation. both conservative republicans, landry a tea party freshman. we'll keep you abreast of what happens. >>> meanwhile, high drama about to surround the high court as the justices agree to take on the high-stakes issue of same-sex marriage. ♪ >>> the man
in terms of the fiscal cliff, higher taxes on everybody. one thing that will happen without an agreement, all the bush tax rates go away, so everyone's taxes are going to go up. you'll see that emphasized over the next couple weeks. you'll hear the white house talk about what a bad situation there will be after january 1 if this deal is not cut. >> david jackson, "usa today," shira toeplitz, "roll call." we appreciate your time so much we'll talk to you later in the...
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but senator demind says his resignation has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. it's because he has accepted a job as president of the conservative think tank the heritage foundation. jim demint served three terms as a u.s. congressman from south carolina before voters first elected him to the senate in 2004. mike emanuel is on capitol hill tonight. it's a big resignation,. >> jim demint says is he leaving the senate, shep he is not leaving the fight. in fact, demint might be able to spend more time on issues he is most passionate about at the heritage foundation. he explained his thinking on "special report" a short time ago. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position than a single united states senator. i wouldn't feel good about leaving if we didn't have so many new bright young conservatives now in the senate. but it's time that conservatives take control of our message and let americans know what we can do to make their lives better. earlier fellow south carolina senator lindsey graham sounded truly shocked by the news. >> on a personal level, i have lost my
but senator demind says his resignation has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. it's because he has accepted a job as president of the conservative think tank the heritage foundation. jim demint served three terms as a u.s. congressman from south carolina before voters first elected him to the senate in 2004. mike emanuel is on capitol hill tonight. it's a big resignation,. >> jim demint says is he leaving the senate, shep he is not leaving the fight. in fact, demint might be able to...
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time for the fiscal cliff update. we have not fallen over the ships but it is a few days away. no word of any progress. no compromise from either side. all with spending cuts and expiring tax credits. today, president obama pushed his proposed fix saying a deal must include higher tax rates. republicans say that is a job killer. they is said that forever. they let go of that, meeting at the white house yesterday. neither side will give any details about the conversation between president obama and speaker boehner. wendell, is there any time left to get this done? >>reporter: well, folks think there is time for enough of a deal but stopped short of a fiscal cliff but some think that has to happen this week. at a daimler truck stop the president didn't mention the upper income tax hike he is demanding but warned what will happen if congress doesn't extend the middle-class tax cuts both sides want. >> people will spend nearly $200 billion less than otherwise they would spend. consumer spending will go down. that means you have less customers, businesses get fewer profits, they hir
time for the fiscal cliff update. we have not fallen over the ships but it is a few days away. no word of any progress. no compromise from either side. all with spending cuts and expiring tax credits. today, president obama pushed his proposed fix saying a deal must include higher tax rates. republicans say that is a job killer. they is said that forever. they let go of that, meeting at the white house yesterday. neither side will give any details about the conversation between president obama...
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. >>> this is a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >> fact, child care tax credits will be really reduced. right now a taxpayer gets a $1,000 tax credit per child each year. the credit kicks in when you file your annual income taxes, but if the reduction goes through, you will only be able to deduct $500, a 50% decrease. here's the back story. this year american families will claim over $38 billion in total child credits. if a compromise isn't reached soon, $37 billion in credits are due to be eliminated. why is this happening? it's part of an effort to slash $503 billion from the federal budget deficit through tax increases and deep spending cuts. >> you can learn more any time at www.wusa9.com and on 9 news. this has been a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >>> as we've been telling you here on 9 news, if an agreement cannot be reached by the 1st of the year, the cuts will have an enormous impact on houses, businesses and you name it and put a huge dent into medical research and drug development, possibly for years to come. automatic federal budget cuts means funding for the national institutes
. >>> this is a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >> fact, child care tax credits will be really reduced. right now a taxpayer gets a $1,000 tax credit per child each year. the credit kicks in when you file your annual income taxes, but if the reduction goes through, you will only be able to deduct $500, a 50% decrease. here's the back story. this year american families will claim over $38 billion in total child credits. if a compromise isn't reached soon, $37 billion in credits are due...